onecrazymother ([info]onecrazymother) wrote,
@ 2007-11-09 11:07:00
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I thought this was amusing, but then I'm in a crummy mood still. Take w/ grain o' salt, to taste.

The bitter homeschooler's wish list


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[info]pierceheart
2007-11-09 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for the link.

It's not an issue for me now, nor do I know whether it will be or not, but I'm GLAD there are people who will tell officials to STFU and follow the law.

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[info]onecrazymother
2007-11-11 04:17 pm UTC (link)
It sounds like you went to the home site and read the other article available, if not,you might like to. It was about a mom standing up for her and her son's rights when a local college gave her an enormously hard time about not having a blasted shiny gold sticker seal on her son's diploma. (It's so easy to go out to a craft store and buy one, that's what many would have done, but she stood up, successfully, to the idiocy of a sticker being required for college admission.)

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[info]pierceheart
2007-11-11 04:19 pm UTC (link)
Yes, that's what I read.

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[info]dcdragon67
2007-11-09 05:19 pm UTC (link)
please don't get upset.

i found the list hilarious. however, *i* as a public school mom, sometimes chafe at the defensive characterization of public school as "chew-it-up and spit it out", as accurate as it sometimes is. There are good and bad public schools, good and bad homeschools, and good and bad days for all. For example, today r is listening to holocaust survivors speak to her class. But the other day she had to write me a letter about how she "wasted precisely 75 minutes in class" for forgetting her assignment (yes, r used as carefully snarky language as she could muster. i'm way proud.)

also, i think what people are chafing against when they make stupid homeschool comments is the audacity of someone making a *choice*. It's like, "wait, i didn't get to choose!" well, people, you did; you chose to go with the flow, or you chose to do what you needed to do to feed and house your family and also educate them.

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[info]dcdragon67
2007-11-09 05:20 pm UTC (link)
my point in the last is that if most everyone homeschooled but some people chose to send their kids to "outschool", they would get questioned and the same stupid comments.

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[info]onecrazymother
2007-11-11 04:23 pm UTC (link)
I completely agree, that there are good and bad examples in all directions. I'm actually in a headspace this year, that I can see pros and cons to both public schooling/traditional private schooling and home schooling. Over all, I found the list amusing. It's been sounding like R is having a really good experience lately, and I'm very happy about that. The chew-it-up-and-spit-it-out could be done at home, too. Parents do have the ability, if they choose, to greatly limit the amount of varying opinions a child has access too. Certainly, there are some homeschooling parents who are giving their children very narrow views of the world, and that is just as scary, to me.

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[info]trish_punch
2007-11-09 08:06 pm UTC (link)
It's amazing the comments that people think they have the right to make to complete strangers. I'm sure some questions about homeschooling come from a non-judgemental place, from people who honestly have never thought about different things about it and have honest questions.

And, of course, some people are just butt-heads.

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[info]onecrazymother
2007-11-11 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Yes, there is some branch of etiquette, of what to do when you discover someone is vastly different in some unexpected way. I wonder what Miss Manners would have to say.

I have had good and bad experiences talking with strangers, acquaintances, and friends, about homeschooling.

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[info]n_decisive
2007-11-09 10:42 pm UTC (link)
Well, I know I appreciated it, anyway. :)

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Curious but mean no offence.
[info]aliceslalaland
2007-11-10 08:58 pm UTC (link)
I think it's funny! Being a public school teacher and all, I do agree that smaller class size leads to better education (not that it's feasible for all schools, counties or districts). Don't mean to offend, but am curious as to how it works for college acceptance. I know they are getting better about recoginizing homeschooling as an equal to private and public education. I guess my question is, do homeschooled students get denied or are aked for more proof of their abilities than any public or private school student? I know they can take the sat or act to show they can pass, but what about a diploma? Ok, Please don't be mad I really am curious! I'm not sure I'd want to homeschool (couldn't afford it and I ADORE my job) but it's an option that wasn't available to me as a child and I think it should be an option to all children.... I know our problem students love classes where they can dictate their own pace in a class and learn, retain, and explain the material better that way. Unfortunately not all schools are set up to accommodate this.

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Re: Curious but mean no offence.
[info]onecrazymother
2007-11-11 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I'm not mad at all. This is a completely appropriate space for questions.

My kids are only 5 and 7, so that stage of the game is still a far ways off. I feel like I have at least 4-5 years to simply gather info, before worrying about which hoops must be jumped through. It's possible, for example, that my boys will decide to go to high school. (Barring safety concerns, and possibly despite them, I don't think I would stop a teenager from going to high school if it's what he really wanted to do...I'm increasingly getting toward not barring an 8 year old from going to third grade, if he decides that what he really wants to do. We seriously considered my older one going to second grade, because he thought he might enjoy it...turns out he mistakenly thought that because the preschool he attended for a year was up to using apple cutters, second grade must surely be full of lots of more exciting hands-on tool use.)

There are lots of stories of homeschooled kids getting into very good colleges. And also, there are fairly "standard" routes developing, in which teenagers gradually start taking classes at a local community college, and then eventually transfer to another college or university, with at least as much success as those coming from general public schools. There are also homeschoolers who find that they can take other routes into successful careers. For example, a homeschool list I'm on was recently discussing the fact that Peter Jennings (journalist) has no degrees, and never graduated high school.

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